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      Voodoo, JuJu, and African Americans


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      God-or Vodum, Jehova, Oledamare, Jesus Christ, Allah, and Baba Loas, neither one is less the divinity that enters and seizes the righteous in a Pentecostal, Baptist, or Voodoo ceremony because He or She is called by either one of these names mentioned. In any of the fundamentally so-called "Save Soul Churches" of African American and European American sponsorship, one can easily note that Voodoo and Ju Ju have been co-opted in many of their forms into the Judaeo-Christian setting that is common to Christians and Jews in the United States of America. Within this phenomenal development, the so-called "Negro Spiritual" is the most common and acceptable "paganistic incantation" to European-American Jews and Christians. Why? Because they see such African American incantations ("Negro Spirituals") as religious entertainment by truly black-faced minstrels.

      Are the "Negro Spirituals" in any way a developmental outgrowth of European American style Christianity? Or, are they not an extension of indigenous African traditional religious chants that underwent European and European American style Jewish and Christian influences? The latter is definitely the case. Of course, this conclusion will be very heatedly denied by those who wish not to be labeled- among other things- "pagans, savages, uncivilized, cannibals," etc. But the fact still remains that Ju Ju , Voodoo, Witchcraft, and Magic all basic elements within the so-called "Western Religions", have been emphasized in the African American (Black) owned and controlled synagogues, churches, and mosques.

      The history of the African Americans' belated entrance into European American style Christian Protestantism and Roman Catholocism is in itself evidence that the Africans, who were at the time chattel slaves of European and European American Jewish and Christian slavemasters, were not wanted by the in-groups (their slavemasters). Could it have been possible that those indigenous Africans- such as Moses, St.Augustine, Bilal and others-primarily made Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, the mass organizations they are) would have adopted the existing forms of religious worship their slavemasters were using to enslave them into? Not at all so. The mere fact that they were forcibly excluded from all forms of Jewish, Christian, and Islamic ("Western Religions") religious worship; and that they were persecuted and prosecuted for any attempt at practicing either on their own, is further prime facie evidence that there is a distinctly different Judaism, Christianity, and Islam developed by the African Americans that is not attributable and/or applicable to, and by, European Americans. The uniqueness of their common eating habits represents no major differences between the two groups. For example, the African American was forced to develop an appetite for "chitterlings, ham hocks, pig ears, tails and feet". Why? Because all other parts of the pig ,like all other edible animals, were reserved for the European and European slave masters- Christian and Jewish-in and out of religion. In the case of the so called "Western Religions", the Africans were even denied the right to read any book whatsoever, that is, including the Jewish or Christian "Holy Scripture", much less the Moselem's- which was not tolerated among the colonists, even after they became independent as the United States of America.

      One must remember that the Africans, although crushed in their every attempt to participate within the culture of the bestial environment of slavery, did communicate with each other in the cotton fields and other places where they labored, through Voodoo, Ju Ju, and other richly spiritual and religious devotions they developed in their homeland- the continent of Africa. The bestiality of their slavemasters further made them learn each other's religious songs and chants. This conglomerate of religious exultation, therefore, became the background for the later development which is today erroneously called "Negro Spirituals", instead of African incantations, or Voodoo chants. It is to be remembered that the slaves were Africans; not "Negroes". "Negroes" were originated by the European slavemasters, so was "Negroland".

      There was nothing "Negro" about the development of the "Spirituals". They were developed by millions of Africans; not one of whom was a "free man", not one a "citizen"; not one a "human being" under the laws of Great Britain up until 1776 C.E.; neither were they so considered after the American war of independence from Great Britain nor after their Federal Constitution was written, and from thence through the 14th Amendment of said document in 1885 C.E.; and to a very great extent not even today in 1970-more than 350 years after the first group of Africans were brought to the United States of America as indentured and chattel slaves.

      Further proof lies in the fact that Africans on the European and European American slave farms, plantations, or in the businesses and big houses sang their "African Spirituals" and chanted their other Voodoo and Ju Ju praises to Africa's Gods long before they could even understand what the Gods of their European and European American captors were all about. This European style Christian God (Jesus Christ) was different to the Jesus Christ presented to them in Ethiopia before He was introduced to the Romans in Rome.

      "Fare de well, fare de well...", etc. may be to most Black and White peoples in the United States of America today from some sort of poetically broken english. Yes! Certainly poetic and definitely broken in its English. Yet, it came from a "Negro Spiritual" that had its origin in the savagery of the Jewishless and Christianless slavemasters' sadistic cruelty and genocide upon their helpless and defenseless African slaves. "Fare de well, fare de well" that the blows from the master's bull-whip, with its metal pellets, would not maim another African slave if he (or she) was not lucky enough to die from the blows instead. This is what these words that were composed during the world's worst era of genocide by one group of mankind inhumanity towards the other (European and European American physical and mental enslavement of the African peoples in Africa, the Caribbean Island, and Continental Americas) were saying.

      "Go down Moses, way down in Egypt's land, tell ole Pharoah let my people go...," etc. may in itself suggest Jewish (Hebrew) origin. Yet, in fact, it was the poetic expression which was so common in the Africans' rebellion of their disgust and contempt for their Christian and Jewish slavemasters that were being exulted. But,, why did the slaves use the name of a fellow indigenous African- Moses (a Haribu) - in their appeal for freedom, and could not see the justice in their other fellow African- Pharoah (King) Ramsees II's reason for exiling his fellow indigenous Africans of the Hebrew religion (Jews?) Because of many reasons, most common of which are

      (A) They did not know that Moses was an indigenous African, as they were.
      (B) Biblical Egypt had always been taught in churches and synagogues as a mythical place where Africans (whom the slavemasters renamed "Negroes") did not exist.
      (C) They were brainwashed into believing that the enslavement of the African Jews by their fellow African worshippers of the God Ra was an act against their God (Jehova of the Jews, and Jesus Christ of the Christians); but their own slavery, on the other hand, was "the will of God."
      (D) And that their own enslavement was for their own benefit, since "slavery saved them from being beaten by their much more cannibalistic uncivilized pagan fellow Africans, who were not as fortunate as they were to... hear the message of God" (Jesus Christ).

      The hatred implanted into the preceding words with regard to Moses and his troubles with his fellow African, Pharoah Ramses II, is still sung with greater passion in African American Churches than songs of their own enslavement- such as "Ole Man River" and "Lift Every Voice and Sing". IN most of the sophisticated so called "middle class" minded "Negro Churches"- such as the "Negro" Presbyterians, Anglicans, Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Moravians, etc., these songs seem to be banned by a kind of gentlemen's agreement to, hopefully, bury their historic past memories of chattel slavery. In this manner, the beneficiaries of slavery, their slavemasters' descendants, can easily forget the fact that the slaves' labor, which created said wealth, goes still unpaid.

      (continued in next post)
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      Voodoo and Ju Ju chants, and testimonials, can be heard in the preaching of the Last Sermon on the Mount that echoed:

      Free at last! Free at last! Great God Almighty, I'm Free at last..." "I've been up to the mountain top, and I've seen the Promised Land..." etc.

      But with a crashing booming BAND from an assassin's weapon violence, the life of the man on the mountain- a by-product of Voodoo and Ju Ju, along with European and European Americanized Judaeo-Christianity, the Reverend Dr.Martin Luther King, Jr.... was "Free at last..." This man, who had melodiously mastered his African chants, found only in the African American (so called "Negro") Baptist Church and other "testimonial", sharing and "Soul releasing" African forms of Christian experience around the entire world, had also revived Voodooism and Ju Ju-ism and His Orishas (minor Gods). This analysis may not find believers in its proclamations; but the fact remains that Dr.King was typical in his approach as any Voodoo preacher of today.

      When Voodoo priests take a rooster in their divine encantation and begin their dance to the God Damballah Ouedo, one can hear the same in the spiritual crescendo of the tambourine and piano-playing that accompany the religious dancing within the African American testimonial that Dr.King preached; particularly when Obyah (Obeah) and Voodoo spirits take hold of their worshippers- to the extent that they floatingly move into the ecstacy of religious trance. This form of Voodooistic involvement has been adopted by thousands of European-Americans of varied branches of Christianity which are today called "sects" by their much more "sophisticated" brethren, who prefer to maintain their emotionless dried-up, middle class analytical teachings of self-proclaimed "theologians" and "philosophers", who teach beyond and above the understanding of their parishioners, mainly to show their academic skills, rather than deal with their followers' earthly needs.

      "SOUL!"... This overplayed and maligned "exotic word" has been removed from its Voodoo origin into an "Old Black Magic" and "Witchcraft" night-clubbing atmosphere, and from there to the more popular and contemporary, but most contemptible, meaning of "Black Comedy." Yet; "SOUL" was originally the expression used in the religious ceremonial dance that once entered, in a debased form, the European American entertainment world from the Caribbean as the "LIMBO DANCE."

      The "Limbo", a religious ceremonial dance performed by the priest of the Obyah (Obeah) rites in preparation for the adoration ceremonies adulating masculinity before the initiation proceedings of a young boy to be circumcized and start his road into "manhood," is as sacred as a Jewish Barmitzvah or a Christian First Communion. In this ceremonial exhibition, it is said that:

      Man displays his greatest sense of power in his ability to coordinate in perfect unision his mnd and body in graciously rhythmic movements, and as such reach perfect meditation with his God through the intervention of ancestral spirits from the spirit world.

      But why did the overlords and slavemasters from Europe and Britain ban the "Limbo" in Africa and the Caribbean Islands? Because they feared its "paganistic immorality" and the "Black Magic" it was supposed to emit. They saw it as a form of "heathenism"; of course, with a bit of cannibalism thrown for good measure, this reaction being typical of the "Christian Missionaries" that afflicted Africa and the indigenous African peoples and their descendants for over the past 476 years.

      In general, that which is presently called "Limbo Dance" came down to contemporary African Americans by way of African Christianity which was adopted after Christianity was infused with Ju Ju-ism and Voodooism in West Africa and the Caribbean lands, before its arrival in the United States of America.

      Is it not strange that in "Save Soul" or "Sanctified" dancing the dancers knees are never crossed? Yes! But only those who do not know that "crossing the Knees" in a Voodoo dance is as much sacriligious as one trying to do a goose-step during a Jewish or Christian religious procession before the Ark of the Covenant or the Altar of Communion. The history of this most sacred religious tradition came down to the African American and the African Caribbean from generations succeeding generations (through action) even though not a single word was permitted to be written down; all of which was "inspired by God," the African God- "Voodum." One sees the same corolloary in the Jewish, Christian, and Moslem traditional religious dances of movements of the priests, rabbis, ministers, and imams. This tradition, the "Limbo Dance", is as much the order of a God of Africa- through his "inspired Holy Prophets" that were called upon by His "angels", as the Gods of Europe and Asia who called upon Abraham, Moses, Jesus Christ, and Mohamet. Or is it that God, too, is guilty of "racism"? And that He, She or It, could never call upon an African to be one of the "Prophets?" Maybe it is that Oledamare, the God of the Yorubas and millions more of West Africa, is not the equal of Jehova, Jesus Christ or Allah.

      If the European and European American can see beyond his (or her) narrow belief that he alone is perfect; and that mankind did not have to call upon him to save humanity for any God whatsoever, then, and only then, is it possible for him to see the influence of Ju Ju, Voodoo, Magic, Obyah, Witchcraft, and most other forms of other peoples' religion and God that preceded the creation of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, had on them in their own beginning, and now.
      "The greatest mistake of the movement has been to organize a sleeping people around specific goals. You have to wake the people up first, then youíll get action." Brother Malcolm

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      Black communities of the United States and Religious/Spiritual Renaissance


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      In the Black communities of the United States of America, local "store front churches" have become the true centers of inhibited Voodoistic expressions. There, one can purchase all sorts of roots; from "Love John the Conqueror" to "Blood Root." Oils are equally available, from "Snake Oil" to plain old Palm Oil. "Graveyard dirt" and "African Red Clay" can be had at a little extra cost. Burnt incense also fills the air as African and African American spirituals and other imported religious songs from Brazil, the Caribbean Islands, and West Africa play to the softly dim-lit room full of worshipers waiting to communicate with the "Next World" (Netherworld, Ancestral World). Needless to say, charalatans have invaded the world of the "Mysteries", which some find to be extremely financially lucrative. Here also, "Black Magic" is abused by too many who do not know with what they are fooling. These highly sophisticated indigenous African traditional religious rites have been deemed "Witchcraft" by ill wishers and the ignorant; mostly because such charlatans have professed to be able to:
      "...perform evil deeds through Black Magic in religion" etc.

      "Witchcraft" is as much scientific as the religious rites of Mrs.Mary Baker Eddy's "Christian Science." Its "Witch Doctors" as as much "scientists" as the Christian scientist "practitioners". Yet, the "Reading Rooms" of the Christian Science organization meet with revered acceptance and tolerance by Jews, Christians, and Moslems alike. On the other hand, Voodoo and other indigenous African traditional religions must suffer the disgusting designation of "Occult", to say the least; and must settle for an occasional Steinway Hall Auditorium or some off limit place where landlords seldom could rent other than for manufacturing lofts.

      Even with all of the clamour for Islam, and the flight from Judaism and Christianity, a small but ever increasing band of African Americans turn to one of the religions of their forefathers- the Yorubas of West Africa- and give praise to God- Oledamare (and others). Thousands more turn to Damballah Ouedo and Voodoo through their contact with priests from Haiti, Cuba, Brazil, and other parts of the Caribbeans, South America and Africa. A good number of local African Americans have also become priestesses and priests of high rank and recognition among international brotherhood of their faith. These priestesses march along in the finries of their office with their priests along Seventh Avenue, Harlem, New York City, once more on Sundays; just as priests, rabbis, imans, ministers, nuns, and others dress up in their habits of the so-called "Western Religions". With the rank of their offices embroided in their clothing or other objects of said authority held in their hands, they lead the faithful in the playing of skin and wind instruments at various places in the "Harlems" of the United States of America.

      What made these African Americans return to the traditional religions of their Motherland and turn their backs on Judaism, Christianity, Islam, in spite of all the adverse propaganda against them? The answers are many; some of which follows:
      "A search for identity; A sense of pride; A determination to have their own thing; A sense of belonging; To be able to say," at last, "this is mine, which I have created and have always kept sacred."

      These things are very well true; for what is pride without ownership (community or private)?

      Another aspect of the renaissance in indigenous African traditional religions presently spreading over the African American communities, especially in the northern and eastern urban centers of the United States of America is to be found in the following words:

      ".... And God created man in His own image, and His own likeness...," etc.

      But for the first time in over four- hundred years, African Americans have "a Black God" or "Gods" to whom they could related like the European Amerivcans related to the "White God" image provided by Michaelangelo and all of theologians of the various seminaries and yeshivas- whom they found in JuJu, Voodoo, Damballah Ouedo, "Black" Magic, and others.
      "The greatest mistake of the movement has been to organize a sleeping people around specific goals. You have to wake the people up first, then youíll get action." Brother Malcolm

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      as an afrikan from brazil i want humbly say that we can not mix afrikan spirituality with catholicism and christianity, with all due respecti think,you are makinga grave mistake,coz the chants in kamdomble has nuthin to do with christianity or protestantism.in the west indies,it is chanted in yoruba,brazil in yoruba,the deities has nothing to do with christian saints or catholic distorted images,afrikan esoteric knowledge has nothing to do with both sects,churchs,with all due respect warrior princess,for you as an afrikan and hubmleness in my heart and soul, i think,you are wrong all along the threads,because,when afrikan slaves landed in brazil,they used to chant to the deities in their native language be it bantu or yoruba or haussas,the portuguese slave masters and slave owners,wouldnt understand what they were chanting about,i think,warrior princess,you should do more objective research in to the subject,and even in amerika,protestatism was shoved down afrikans throat and thats why we have today whats called gospel,even the coptic church of ethiopia uses afrikan esoteric knowledge,ancient language ge'ez by the monks,mixed with afrikan magik justa friendly suggestion and word of advice do more objective research,humbly urs kweku.



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      Greetings and thank you for your response...


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      I apologize, Precious... For I did not state that this is not "my" work, rather some of the work of Dr.Ben (Yosef A.A ben-Jochannan); taken from "African Origins of the Major Western Religions" , published in 1970.

      In addition to this, from your response, it would seem that you think that I was suggesting black people mix african spirituality with catholocism and/or christianity? I would not say that this is what I am personally suggesting "should" happen, but I "am" saying that this is what "has" happened in much of The Diaspora already, beginning with slavery.


      *Edit* A little info on Dr.Ben (and in particular his book "African Origin of the Major 'Western Religions' "), for those who have not yet heard or are not that familiar with him/his work.

      Yosef ben-Jochannan is a master teacher with a forceful command of ancient and contemporary history. He uses wit, humor and common sense to accent history and expose historical distortions. Dr.Ben has taught on the faculty of colleges and universities in the United States and abroad. His most recent assignment was as Senior Lecturer, Faculty of Languages, Al Azhar University (Arab Republic of Egypt). Prior to that, he served as Adjunct Professor of History and Egyptology at Cornell University's Africana Studies Research Center.

      African Origin of The Major Western Religions

      For more than five decades, Yosef ben-Jochannan, researcher, author, lecturer, has led what has now become a mass effort to emphasize African contributions to the world, "African Origins of the Major Western Religions", first published in 1970, continues to be one of Dr. Ben's most thought provoking works. This critical examination of the history, beliefs and myths , which are the foundation of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, remains instructive and fresh. By highlighting the African influences and roots of these religions, Dr.Ben reveals an untold history that many would prefer to forget.

      The Black Classic Press edition of African Origins of the Major Western Religions is a fascimile edition, with an added index and extended bibliography.
      "The greatest mistake of the movement has been to organize a sleeping people around specific goals. You have to wake the people up first, then youíll get action." Brother Malcolm


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