Buying Land to Build A Black Town...

[5602]

I have been considering this for awhile now and I see a couple nice size tracks of rural land in california that I would like to purchase if I can get a loan or come up with the cash.

[Abdurratln]

Originally Posted by 5602

I have been considering this for awhile now and I see a couple nice size tracks of rural land in california that I would like to purchase if I can get a loan or come up with the cash.

There are several "Balck" town in the USA. Usually they have been left wwithout sufficient economic base.

Here in Saint Louis there is a little town of about 1000 people. Its' main industry is prostitution and other sex related businesses. There is a pool hall and a couple of very small little stores. And, of course there are three-four small churches. That's about it.

I proposed establishing a city on the Sudan, Chad, Central African Republic borders. This would entail setting up such projects as land reclamation, sources of energy such as wind and solar, building communicatrion links such as railroads and highways and airports and bulding new homes and other businesses. As a capitol city it would need all kinds of services. Various monuments would be built and it would become a tourist attraction. This would be a very good location to build resorts and vacation projects to attract visitors. What African or Arab would not want to visit the capitol city of the USAA? The city would be designed with all of this in mind from the very beginning. Plus, it would have the necessary political protection.

In the thread on "Economic DEvelopment", it is observed that no matter what we do in terms of business developments in the USA, our best efforts are vulnerable to enemy attacks. This is why by focusing our best efforts on Africa, we would at least be able to defend our property. Plus, the governments of Chad, Central African Republic and Sudan could be counted on to offer political cover and protection. To the extent that we can and will establish the United States of Africa and Arabia, we will be able to make laws that would benefit our development efforts.

Do not get me wrong. As we establish the USAA, the new unified Africa and Arabia would command a great deal of world power. All of our people here in the USA would automatically become citizens of the USAA. (This is why I am spending so much energy and time among Diasporic Africans. I am sure that this proposal will receive enthusiastic support once I contact the political parties in Africa and Arabia.) As USAA citizens, we would be able to call upon the power and resources of the USAA to support our development efforts in the Diaspora. At the same time, we of the Diaspora will be able to provide resources and support to the development efforts in Africa and Arabia. In the final analysis, we will have a trading relationship between the Motherlands and the Diaspora. This would certainly contrribute to worls peace.

This has been called a "strange theory". But, it is not far removed from what has been tried before. However, thanks to new technology and many other factors, the project is doable and likely to be sucessful this time around. All that is needed is the proper attitude.

[5602]

Originally Posted by Abdurratln

There are several "Balck" town in the USA. Usually they have been left wwithout sufficient economic base.

Here in Saint Louis there is a little town of about 1000 people. Its' main industry is prostitution and other sex related businesses. There is a pool hall and a couple of very small little stores. And, of course there are three-four small churches. That's about it.

I proposed establishing a city on the Sudan, Chad, Central African Republic borders. This would entail setting up such projects as land reclamation, sources of energy such as wind and solar, building communicatrion links such as railroads and highways and airports and bulding new homes and other businesses. As a capitol city it would need all kinds of services. Various monuments would be built and it would become a tourist attraction. This would be a very good location to build resorts and vacation projects to attract visitors. What African or Arab would not want to visit the capitol city of the USAA? The city would be designed with all of this in mind from the very beginning. Plus, it would have the necessary political protection.

In the thread on "Economic DEvelopment", it is observed that no matter what we do in terms of business developments in the USA, our best efforts are vulnerable to enemy attacks. This is why by focusing our best efforts on Africa, we would at least be able to defend our property. Plus, the governments of Chad, Central African Republic and Sudan could be counted on to offer political cover and protection. To the extent that we can and will establish the United States of Africa and Arabia, we will be able to make laws that would benefit our development efforts.

Do not get me wrong. As we establish the USAA, the new unified Africa and Arabia would command a great deal of world power. All of our people here in the USA would automatically become citizens of the USAA. (This is why I am spending so much energy and time among Diasporic Africans. I am sure that this proposal will receive enthusiastic support once I contact the political parties in Africa and Arabia.) As USAA citizens, we would be able to call upon the power and resources of the USAA to support our development efforts in the Diaspora. At the same time, we of the Diaspora will be able to provide resources and support to the development efforts in Africa and Arabia. In the final analysis, we will have a trading relationship between the Motherlands and the Diaspora. This would certainly contrribute to worls peace.

This has been called a "strange theory". But, it is not far removed from what has been tried before. However, thanks to new technology and many other factors, the project is doable and likely to be sucessful this time around. All that is needed is the proper attitude.

Actually the type of town I had thought about would be on land like the following:

http://www.eaglestar.net/ekt6-.html

http://www.eaglestar.net/ekt11-.html

This type of land has lots of stone, timber, etc for building materials as well as good size acres of flat land on which to farm, and they are right near lakes so getting water and digging wells is possible. Just right there we have the materials for the homes, water, and food taken care of. The homes could be built with solar powered systems in and on them for running electronics and appliances as well as being outfitted with satillite systems for communications if the residents want them. Also various types of heating and cooling systems can be installed. There is also a wide choice of septic options available as well. Incinerators could be installed for trash disposal and for organic materials like food, they could be used in compost containers for farming and gardening. The first people I would appeal to are construction, lumber , water department and farmers. The second group of people are inventors, researchers and scientists, teachers, security personnel and healers. We need to have at least 1 clinic in the area. There would also be a cemetary, so we will also need mortuary specialists. After them would be the general Black public.

We would have to determind what other kinds of business could be in the area based on the needs, skills, income, and savings of the residents.

PS: Another reason I have chosen this type of area is because of the moutain seculsion it offers when the coming catastrophes begin to occur in the cities.

[Abdurratln]

Originally Posted by 5602

Actually the type of town I had thought about would be on land like the following:

http://www.eaglestar.net/ekt6-.html

http://www.eaglestar.net/ekt11-.html

This type of land has lots of stone, timber, etc for building materials as well as good size acres of flat land on which to farm, and they are right near lakes so getting water and digging wells is possible. Just right there we have the materials for the homes, water, and food taken care of. The homes could be built with solar powered systems in and on them for running electronics and appliances as well as being outfitted with satillite systems for communications if the residents want them. Also various types of heating and cooling systems can be installed. There is also a wide choice of septic options available as well. Incinerators could be installed for trash disposal and for organic materials like food, they could be used in compost containers for farming and gardening. The first people I would appeal to are construction, lumber , water department and farmers. The second group of people are inventors, researchers and scientists, teachers, security personnel and healers. We need to have at least 1 clinic in the area. There would also be a cemetary, so we will also need mortuary specialists. After them would be the general Black public.

We would have to determind what other kinds of business could be in the area based on the needs, skills, income, and savings of the residents.

PS: Another reason I have chosen this type of area is because of the moutain seculsion it offers when the coming catastrophes begin to occur in the cities.

Where is the economic base? Where is the political power?

We need to face the world and engage it to do trade and commerce, not seclude ourselves.

[5602]

Originally Posted by Abdurratln

Where is the economic base? Where is the political power?

We need to face the world and engage it to do trade and commerce, not seclude ourselves.

However, it seems you are interested in getting big quick or starting out large and that almost never happens. This universe started from a seed and grew to what we see today. The same universal law applies to towns, cities, etc. As for the economic and political base those will also have to grow. We must be able to provide for our basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, and safety even if we don't have the economy rolling at full steam yet or we go through an economic collapse like many places around the world today, at least we can still eat, drink, and have a place to sleep at night. I sugget building the towns first and getting the local economies going, then doing business with other Black Towns in the area and moving up from there.

Let's not leave out a Bartering Economy. This is the traditional way most of our ancestors did business and it is making a strong comeback around the world including the US. Here is a story about this:

http://www.barteritonline.com/bbj.htm

As for the politics that will evolve and revolve around much of our economic, civil, spiritual, etc. needs.

Safety is very neccessary for us. Seclusion can provide some of this. Black People are being driven from the cities in mass numbers, the most telling of these being the "Hurricane Katrina" warfare. It was easy to get to the people because they were in places with plenty of access!

[JOSIE]

Originally Posted by 5602

However, what I think you are trying to do is either get big quick or start our large and unfortunately that usually never works. This universe started from a seed and grew to what we see today. The same thing is true with this idea. As for the economic and political base those will also have to grow. One of the first things I had to decided upon concerning the economy is can we atleast provide for our basic needs such as food, clothing, and shelter, and safety so even if you don't have the economy rolling at full steam yet or you go through an economic collapse like we are seeing around the world today, at least you can still eat, drink, and have a place to sleep at night that the land provides you. Also, lets not forget how Black People are being driven from the cities in mass numbers the most telling of these being the "Hurricane Katrina" warfare. It was easy to get to the people because they were in places with plenty of access to anyone!

I sugget building the towns first and getting the local economies going, then doing business with other Black Towns in the area and moving up from there.

PS: Let's not leave out a Bartering Economy. This is the traditional way most of our ancestors did business and it is making a strong comeback around the world including the US. Here is a story about this:

http://www.barteritonline.com/bbj.htm

Exactly keep it simple. Everything else will follow if it stretegically planned. We can be our own leaders. If we want to to do our thing we don't have to think like Euroes and say, "Where's the political power?". We need to stop thinking like them and have our own way of doing things. We should be avoiding major politics. And the ecomnomic base comes with the success of the town functioning 1st independently and then expanding on that.

[5602]

Originally Posted by Abdurratln

There are several "Balck" towns in the USA. Usually they have been left wwithout sufficient economic base.

Here in Saint Louis there is a little town of about 1000 people. Its' main industry is prostitution and other sex related businesses. There is a pool hall and a couple of very small little stores. And, of course there are three-four small churches. That's about it.

When you talk about these areas are they just places with large numbers of Black People? Do the people own the land and the homes there? Do they have land on which to grow food? Do they have wells or lakes? Are the building materials for homes located on the land itself?

[Jalili]

Originally Posted by 5602

When you talk about these areas are they just places with large numbers of Black People? Do the people own the land and the homes there? Do they have land on which to grow food? Do they have wells or lakes? Are the building materials for homes located on the land itself?

There is a small place here in Savannah called Liberty city but it's starting to become a mixed area now that white folks see the fact that it's quiet so their trying to buy it out which is truly sad because many of the folks their still are paying for their homes and the banks are trying to push them out by raising their mortgage rates.

[Exzit]

i didn't know about liberty city bro. whereabouts is it located?

[Abdurratln]

Originally Posted by JABOOM

There is a small place here in Savannah called Liberty city but it's starting to become a mixed area now that white folks see the fact that it's quiet so their trying to buy it out which is truly sad because many of the folks their still are paying for their homes and the banks are trying to push them out by raising their mortgage rates.

I have heard of Liberty City, but I have never been there. If you have seen one you have seen them all, really.

5602 is speaking of the same basic problem that you are. The only differnce is in the details. In the USA, we are mere parts of the structure. In other words, we are dominated by the rulers, the slave-masters class, or the descendants of the very same pigs who held us in chattel slavery for 500 years. The story stays the same. Only the names have been changed.

At one time, they kept us in slavery through crude and brutal means. Those were the Democartic Party and the forerunners to the KKK. But, the Republicans are much smarter than the Democrats, with the obvious exception of President "W" and a few others. This is why they "freed" the slaves. Aftering "freeing" the slaves, they left them exposed to starvation. This is why the only means of survival was to sale themselves back into slavery but without the name and social protections of slavery. Sounds familiar? In other words, just as the Republicans are fighting against the socisl safety net today, they fought against it in the Civil War.

Without any fair or just protection for small farms or businesses, we will always be vulnerable to those who are more powerful. In other words, the Republican Party will always be able to set up various tricks to cheat us because that is what they do and have always done.

Pan-Africanism is the solution. See my thread on "Understanding Revolutionary Pan-Africanism". In the United States of Africa and Arabia (USAA), we will have the reins of power in the form of the AAPRP, APSP, NBUFF UNIA-ACL and others, plus the many political parties in Arabia and Africa such as the Arab Baath Socialist Party, the Pan-Africanist Congress, the Natinial Islamic Front, the National Democratic Party and many, many more.

In the USAA, we will set up such institutions as Islamic Banks. Islamic Banks are forbidden to cheat people under Sharia. Therefore, the type of thing that you mentions will not happen. This is but one example of why we must have BLACK POWER in the form of Pan-Africanism.
In the USAA

[Jalili]

Originally Posted by Exzit

i didn't know about liberty city bro. whereabouts is it located?

It's almost on the out lines of the city almost near Garden City down the road from Beach High