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      Students CANT Afford Independency


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      Adult adolescents in the 2000 U.S. Census

      By Natasha Kolpina, Poleznaya Gazette, 3 May 2002. Translated from Russian by Liz Vladeck.

      It?s assumed that in the United States young people flit off to college, then fly even further on their own wings after graduating?they find work, start a family, and so on. A return to the parents? empty nest after college is considered the plight of ignoramuses, loafers and the unsuccessful.

      The last census, however, shows that this stereotype needs correcting. Yes, young men and women, as usual, leave home and fly off to college, but it appears that many of them return to their childhood rooms in their parents? homes. These are not wrongdoers but young people who receive their diplomas at institutions of higher education, find themselves a job and convince themselves that they can?t independently solve many problems.

      Such a picture especially seems to contradict the events of the last decade. After all, the internet business took the economy by storm. It seemed like every time you turned around, there was another story in the press about a twenty-something multi-millionaire. Of course, when the bubble broke in the exaggerated rush to open electronic firms, young multi-millionaires became simply millionaires. But it?s not necessary to feel sorry for those folks. This trend refers to another kind of twenty-something.

      Elaine Aronson graduated from prestigious Smith College with a degree in social work, and found a job with the city of Chicago. Six months later she went home to her parents? house in New Jersey for the weekend, and announced that she was going to have to leave her job and live at home for awhile. The reason? Primarily economic. The rent for her tiny one-room apartment in a relatively safe neighborhood in Chicago came out to just about Elaine?s monthly salary. She had no money left over for anything else.

      How common is this scenario? It turns out that there are more than 4,500,000 educated, employed people between the ages of 25 and 35 who return to and live in their parents? home for some period of time. And with the rise in the cost of living, this tendency, by all available indicators, will increase.

      Newsweek conducted an online survey of those leaving college in 2002, and found that 54 percent of those responding planned to spend some amount of time living with their parents; 21 percent guessed they would need to stay under their parents? roof for the better part of a year. For this category of young people, someone has already thought up a name: adultolescents. They are not planning to, or they simply can?t conform to the national standard?work, family, children, buying a home, financial independence.

      Which trends are connected with this pattern? Well, first of all, the average age at which people get married is increasing. In 1970, Americans started families at an average age of 22. In 2002, that average age is 26. The birth of a first child is being put off ten more years, as they say now, ?under the gun of the biological clock.? Inasmuch as the number of jobs is decreasing, young people drag out the educational process: the ranks of graduate students, doctorates, post-docs, and so on are swelling.

      Complicated psychological factors must be added to the economic reality. The parents of today?s adolescents?the Woodstock Generation?grew up in the 1960s with the idea of completely rejecting their parents? lifestyle. Their slogan was ?don?t trust anyone over 30.? Today?s young people can?t imagine themselves in such a contentious relationship with their parents. Such close relationships between parents and children haven?t been seen since the time of World War II.

      Both sides?parents and children?admit that the new situation leaves them with mixed feelings. On the one hand, mothers and fathers have already resigned themselves to facing an empty nest after the kids leave for school; they don?t hide their happiness at the return of an adult child. On the other hand, they know that the longer they financially support their children, the harder it will be for everyone. Then there?s the fact that they are unable to set aside $20-30,000 a year for retirement.

      Everyone hopes that the situation will change with the end of the recession. But it?s the next census that will have the final word. And that census isn?t far off?2010 fast approaches.
      This article appeared in Edition 18 of Voices That Must Be Heard.

      Translation © 2002, IPA, all rights reserved. Included by permisson of Poleznaya Gazette.

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      Yes, this article is true..job market is horrible,price of stuff is high..its all a damn mess.
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      Capitalism as a system cannot sustain a genuine educational system. This article further emphasizes that it's all one big train wreck waiting to happen. Thanks for posting it Elisa!!!

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      maybe, and only maybe the train will have to wait for the next generation. when the current "poor" students have no economically stable parents anymore, and they cant provide the same for their seed. just an idea...

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      so much for the affulence of the middle class. i keep thinking i'd rather be poor and know i'm poor than keep thinking i'm rich.

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      I'm rather not be poor at all. Economically, spiritually, mentally.

      The idea of students not being able to afford independency is a major blow to Self-Reliance and Self-Determaination. Two vital aspects of ANY and EVERY movement/revolutionary change.

      Too many of Our People have failed to become Self-Reliance and Self-Determaination, this applies for all aspects of life. While this article it is saying that those who follow the system's way of becoming Self-Reliance and Self-Determaination is not enough. With this being known ideas like Unity, Black Economics, Self-Reliance, and Self-Determaination must go to the front of Our Peoples minds. Not that they ever shouldn't of have in the first place, but the too many who didn't want to think about them are being forced to.
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      Gretings of Afreekan Love Family,

      I am Joanie, a RE~covering Afreekan amerikkkan and RE~presentative from the Voices in the Margins.

      I'm glad this thread has come back. I read it when first surfaced yet was not ready to respond.

      seems it has happened to me

      Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Africa
      Capitalism as a system cannot sustain a genuine educational system. This article further emphasizes that it's all one big train wreck waiting to happen.
      I have been a Student of Afreekan Descent (SAD).
      I did what was suggested, even recommended by OUR leaders of the 60's &70's. I was no fool, i went to school. I earned an AS, BS, MSS and am ABD in my field of study.
      I have worked in my field for over 15 years..so I am quiet expereinced.

      I am finacially poor, I currently survive off welfare. I am currently forced in a position to "sell myself to the highest bidder"= interviewing process. These days, is not even about the "highest bidder" is just about having someone say...ok...you can earn a living by working for us.

      I have many ideas towards BE~ing self-sufficient...yet, "takes money to make money" and.....i have none.....

      I sit in front of white women...in the field of social services...many who work with OUR people, men, women and especially children and they determine whether I will "help" them.
      I sit in front of "black folk" who seem to "think" like yt..and they judge my ability to "perform" in said position..positions which work with OUR men, women and children.

      they have become the gatekeepers to services and most often then not, i feel i am not chosen because they know i can and will 'help' OUR people.

      I'm disgusted, pained and extremely angry at this whole bs process...called 'education for elevation'...pack of lies.....

      self-determination....bs....i determined to go into the field i did because of my ancestoral gifts and passion to support folk getting out of the lifestyle i lived in the hoods...i found out early on ..there was a way out....now in order to continue making that dream a reality...i have to go through the gatekeepers....yes i do....till i can earn money...DO some things a little different with it...to keep it movin for myself.....hell...i have to BE in a position to care for self ...right now...i cannot...i rely on the good graces of family for shelter and utilities.....self-reliant i am not....(for the moment)...

      anywho....that's my current experience, thoughts and feelings on this topic.

      Akpe for allowing me share

      ps.. so when i say I am a "Re~presentative from the Voices in the Margins"..this is what i mean....despite my "class" status (middle when i'm working), i had always been one paycheck away from poverty...in part due to my own mis-use of resources i now know), my experience is the same...money or not....marginalized voice ( in the work world) in what gets done, what gets supported and someone always in the position to determine if and how i would survive, feelings are the same...MAD about bs system of oppression, powerless in terms of resources to make much change, and SAD about that, resulting behaviors are very BAD and.....folk closet to me seem to BE thinking, feeling and doing the same things...however, THEY DON'T WANT TO CHANGE...THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT...I DO...even when I attempted to ARGUE and FIGHT in their BE~half, they took the low road leaving my azz out to dry....I overstand their struggle, or lack their of, they got tired and laid down, tried of the constant battle for SELF DETERMINATION in a world determined to block that...

      make any sense to anyone??

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      Greetings Recovering AA:

      I feel you 100% on that whole "education for elevation" thing. I actually just graduated from college, a very prestigious one at that, and majored in Africana Studies...and yeah it has its problems and everything, but at least I had the opportunity to be taught by my own peoples and it really sparked my longterm interests in trying to figure out how I, my family, and my people can get out of this madness. But like you said, folks gotta eat. And I've learned the hard way that I can't help others if I'm hungry. And it's been so hard for me since I faced the reality that I'm gonna have to depend on these crakkkas for longer than I thought- to simply eat and put a roof over my head. And I continue to think of ways that I can pimp the system as much as possible to get the money I need to get out of this madness and do somethin' for my people but it's not that easy. And since I just found out that I am with child it's even harder now... Just even tryna live- eating organic & vegan, praying at least 7 times a day, being around positive and encouraging people, just everything! When everywhere you look, you're seeing babylon right up in your face, and then to know you're kinda helpless right now?- That's a hard thing to swallow....And one realization I've come to so strongly and deeply, is that we can't do this alone, without trusting and having faith in our Creator 100%.

      I give thanks for this moment in sharing my thoughts. And I must say, I am deeply grateful for this forum. Although I don't tend to reply, I read just about everything posted, especially the articles.

      andreia

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andrea
      Greetings Recovering AA:

      I feel you 100% on that whole "education for elevation" thing. I actually just graduated from college, a very prestigious one at that, and majored in Africana Studies...and yeah it has its problems and everything, but at least I had the opportunity to be taught by my own peoples and it really sparked my longterm interests in trying to figure out how I, my family, and my people can get out of this madness. But like you said, folks gotta eat. And I've learned the hard way that I can't help others if I'm hungry. And it's been so hard for me since I faced the reality that I'm gonna have to depend on these crakkkas for longer than I thought- to simply eat and put a roof over my head. And I continue to think of ways that I can pimp the system as much as possible to get the money I need to get out of this madness and do somethin' for my people but it's not that easy. And since I just found out that I am with child it's even harder now... Just even tryna live- eating organic & vegan, praying at least 7 times a day, being around positive and encouraging people, just everything! When everywhere you look, you're seeing babylon right up in your face, and then to know you're kinda helpless right now?- That's a hard thing to swallow....And one realization I've come to so strongly and deeply, is that we can't do this alone, without trusting and having faith in our Creator 100%.

      I give thanks for this moment in sharing my thoughts. And I must say, I am deeply grateful for this forum. Although I don't tend to reply, I read just about everything posted, especially the articles.

      andreia

      AFREEKAN LOVE AND AKPE FOR SHARING ANDREIA!! :cheers: :cheers:

      Yes....100% Knowledge and Faith in the Power of the Afreekan SPIRIT which WILL BE the Power which overthrows this shytstem!!!

      Is the ONLY THING, PERSON, SPIRIT TO TRUST!!!!


      Please Sistren....KEEP COMING BACK... AND SHARING....OUR SPIRITS NEED YOU


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